Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

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Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby Florin » Sun 07 Nov , 2010 10:49 am

Most of you know that since the last units of V2 were sold out I started working on the Spectrum Analyzer V3 with lots of new features. Unfortunately time passed and I wasn't able to get it done in time, more and more customers we're waiting to get one, many of which did not care too much about the new features, they just wanted to get the spectrum analyzer as they saw it on youtube. With every day going by, I realized I was only letting these people down by not being able to provide the product they we're waiting for.

As you know V3 meant both a hardware and a software change, the later taking most of my time so I decided that in order to please everyone I could do V2.1 a hardware upgrade of V2, and still use the same analyzing algorithms. This way all the people that waited could get their spectrum analyzer, and while continuing to provide V2.1 to all the new customers I could work in background on V3, without the pressure of deadlines that I could never keep. This way when V3 is ready I'll just post an update, so there is no need to ask when its coming out, I will continue to manufacture V2.1 until V3 will be ready to replace it.

With V2.1, I addressed the most important features reported by customers as well as some issues to help during assembly of the boards. Here is a list of changes for V2.1:
  • Changed DC Power Jack from TH to SMT.
  • Changed input pot from TH to SMT.
  • Added new dc-dc converter ST1S10, works on higher frequency.
  • Changed all pasives from 1210 to 0805 size.
  • Added two bypass capacitors to ATMEGA64.
  • Added reset circuit protection to prevent unwanted resets.
  • Changed ISP con from simple to locking.
  • Removed 100uF cap from ATmega VCC pin.
  • Changed audio input con from RCA to surface mount 3.5mm jack.
  • Increased clearance size for copper fill to reduce pcb failure rate.
  • Redesigned LED Matrix pcb so now its 230mm long instead of 232mm.

I guess one of the biggest problems of V2 was the noise coming out of the inductor. The noise was being generated by the inductor reaching Isat together with the rather low frequency converter. The ST1S10 used on V2.1 solves this issue by working on a higher frequency thus requesting lower value inductors which have higher Isat.

The reset circuit protection was added so that no reset will occur unexpectedly, as reported by some users. With V2.1 it shouldn't matter if you touch the board or if you're running it in a noisy environment, it shouldn't reset on its own anymore.

The audio input connectors were changed from RCA to 3.5mm stereo jack because its a more standard connector so cables should be easier to find, also this makes it easier on the assembly and occupies less space on the board.

I increased the clearance size for ground copper fill on both the motherboard and the LED matrix because with V2 I encountered some failures in the LED Matrix boards because the clearance was too small, there were some boards where the ground copper fill touched a signal. This meant losses because I had to scrap those boards.

I redesigned LED Matrix pcb so now its 230mm long instead of 232mm, the distances between the mounting holes stay the same though, so if you already have an enclosure for V2, the V2.1 will fit without any other changes. I also decreased the side between the bargraph LED's so they now stick closer together.

These are all the changes worth mentioning, there were other smaller adjustments made to the parts libraries to make the assembly process easier but they are not worth mentioning here. Besides the spectrum analyzer this time I'll also be offering an addon board that will connect to the motherboard and will allow the user to run wires, and form custom, bigger LED matrix. This should make the process of building a custom display easier. The addon board will have 8-soic package MOSFET's on both the rows and columns, and while I'm only going to offer them in a couple of values (5A and 7A, not sure yet which values to choose), you could replace the mosfets with any compatible 8-soic mosfet handling a higher current. Ofcourse there will be limitation in therms of the PCB trace width, because I designed it to handle 10A safely which could be stretched if you know what you're doing but I wouldn't recommend it. Anyway If you need that kind of power(>10A) Its best to have a custom design made.

About the date these boards will be ready for ordering, it should be pretty soon. I've already sent the files for PCB manufacturing, I'm placing the orders for all the parts Monday/Tuesday so it only depends on shipping times which at this time of the year could take a bit longer than the usual (from China to Romania for the PCB's and from US to Romania for the parts).

That's it for now, I hope this news made most of the customers who were waiting happy, and for those who were really waiting for V3, don't worry I'm going to continue work.
If you have any questions feel free to post them.

Bellow you can checkout pictures of the spectrum analyzer and the other products offered in the online shop:
RCA-to-3.5-jack-cable_w.jpg
3.5-mm-stereo-jack-cable_w.jpg
7.5VDC-1A-power-adapter_w.jpg

led-matrix-back_w.jpg
spectrum-analyzer-V2.1-kit_back_w.jpg
spectrum-analyzer-motherboard-v2.1-back_w.jpg

spectrum-analyzer-motherboard-v2.1-front_w.jpg
spectrum-analyzer-V2.1-kit_front_w.jpg
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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby tomzarbo » Sat 01 Jan , 2011 12:40 am

Hello, first time poster here...

I'm in the process of getting together the parts I need to build an amplifier using the Sure 2 x 100 board. I have the power supply and amp board, and I thought I'd like to possibly add a spectrum analyzer to the unit to have something to look at while the tunes are playing.

I haven't put an electronics kit together since I assembled an old Heathkit electronics lab kit when I was a kid, so the kit form of this product looks like fun. I like to design and build home stereo speakers as a hobby, but have never really gotten into amps yet, so this is my first try. I don't think I'll have any trouble putting this together, it looks like a fun project for a weekend or two. Just got a good adjustable heat soldering iron with multiple tips so I can do this right.

I have to say that I'm really impressed with the design of this product and how professional it looks. After searching for spectrum analyzers on the internet, this was by far the most professional looking unit available in my opinion; also, the price is right.

Thanks for offering this kit for sale to the public. I can't wait until ver. 2.1 becomes available for purchase. I'll be picking up a green light unit with no startup text when they begin production. There is no possibility for a blue-light unit is there?

Here is a rough pic of what I envision:
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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby Florin » Sat 01 Jan , 2011 10:58 am

Hello TomZ,
Blue LED's are currently far more expensive than the green or red ones. I've tried to source them from many locations but the best price I could get , would make the spectrum analyzer price go up to 220 USD for a blue kit. If someone is interested and places a pre-order I could certainly assemble one in blue, otherwise I'll probably be stuck with it and nobody will buy it.

Its frustrating cause right now I'm waiting for the last package containing the last bits needed to complete a new batch of kits. It had a long delay because of the holidays, but it should be here in 10 days max.(This ofcourse if something bad has not happened to the package, cause in that case It'll take a little longer until I re-order everything that got lost). All I know right now is that the package is delayed due to holidays.

So in other words things should be ready soon. When everything is ready I'll send emails to everyone who emailed me asking about the analyzer and I'll send a newsletter to everyone registered in the online shop.

Sorry for the delay.
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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby tomzarbo » Sat 01 Jan , 2011 1:25 pm

Florin, Thanks a lot for the updated info.

I did a little searching on the net for blue LED arrays and I noticed that blue LED's do seem to be quite a bit pricier than the standard colors. I think I'll just change the 'Power On' LED on my amp to red, and call it good. :P

I'm really excited about purchasing and assembling this display. Thanks again for putting it together and for getting back to me so fast.

TomZ

Edit: Just updated amp design pic. I think your display will spice it up nicely!
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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby Florin » Sat 01 Jan , 2011 3:07 pm

Tomz no problem.
checkout user pictures submitted by Mike audio-spectrum-analyzer-v2-user-pictures-t113.html it's similar to what you're looking for and last time I talked to him he was planning on making more of those enclosures if anyone is interested in them.

Do you plan on fabricating the enclosure yourself ? like in house?
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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby tomzarbo » Sat 01 Jan , 2011 4:23 pm

Florin wrote:Tomz no problem.
checkout user pictures submitted by Mike audio-spectrum-analyzer-v2-user-pictures-t113.html it's similar to what you're looking for and last time I talked to him he was planning on making more of those enclosures if anyone is interested in them.

Do you plan on fabricating the enclosure yourself ? like in house?


I did see those pics and I love the look. That looks like something you would buy at a high end stereo shop (and pay a lot for it!)
I doubt I'll get quite that level of quality, as my amp case will be a one-off design. I'll try to get close though! I have some stainless bits to make the front panel from, and am fairly handy overall with things metal and wood. I'll take lots of pics along the way to map progress once I begin. I figure building this will take me quite a while and I plan on enjoying each part of the process as much as possible.

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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby Florin » Sat 01 Jan , 2011 7:57 pm

That sounds great, maybe you can share the photos with us after you finish the project.
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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby jjac » Fri 07 Jan , 2011 12:30 am

Hi,
I know you said that the blue graphs are more expensive, but is it possible for the ones of us the buy the kit to replace them with 5mm round blue leds?
Thanks,
Your product looks perfect!
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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby Florin » Fri 07 Jan , 2011 7:31 am

Hello,
yes its possible to replace the LED's with blue 5mm round. In fact its better if you would get the led board unassembled because desoldering and then soldering again might damage the PCB.
You'll have to email me before ordering for that..

As an update on the kit status, the package containing the last parts needed to complete the kits was suppose to arrive in December, but a couple of days ago I've contacted USPS and they told me the package is lost.
Now I have to reorder everything that was lost and wait for it to be delivered again. Bad luck...
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Re: Audio Spectrum Analyzer V2.1

Postby jjac » Fri 07 Jan , 2011 10:29 pm

To change to the 5mm blue would I have to change any resistor values to compensate? Sorry to here about your trouble with UPS. It seems as if that's all they do now is loose packages. A local jewelry store here had a UPS hub worker open up one of their packages and steal $15,000 worth of rings out of the package before it was placed on the delivery truck. I don't here about so much trouble with FedEx.
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